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What is an Adoptable Auction?
An Adoptable Auction it's like a normal auction, with an adoptable on the plate and the highest point/money offer wins. These are not 'first come, first serve' adoptables.

Is it the same thing as a Name-Your-Price Adoptable?
Both can cause a bidding war, but no, they're not the same thing. Auctions are more organized and have more terms to them that the NYP Adopts. NYP Adopts usually have a price range and not a starting bid, they don't have an autobuy, nor a minimum bid raise and end when the Adoptable Creator feels like it.

Terminology
Bid = Money/Point Offer
Starting Bid/Base Bid (SB) = The first and lowest bid you can make for the adoptable (usually decided by the Adoptable Creator)
Minimum Raise = The minimum amount of money/points that you need to add to a previous bid to beat it (usually decided by the Adoptable Creator)
Autobuy/Buyout (AB) = The price that you need to pay to be sure to get the adoptable (usually decided by the Adoptable Creator)
Reserve Price = The price under which the Adoptable Creator won't sell the adoptable despite the start of the auction (higher than the Starting Bid but lower than the Autobuy, it's not very common to find one on dA)
Bid Comment = A comment made by the Adoptables Creator where you reply with your bids

How do I make an auction?

:bulletorange: Create an adoptable
You can't make an auction without having something to sell. Usually Auction Adoptables have a peculiarity that sets them apart from usual pre-sets, be it an extra chibi, or the fact that they're an original species, or a special edit made just for them. (Or you do auctions to get the maximum income possible for every design you make.)

:bulletorange: Decide the outline of the Auction
The Adoptable Creator is the one who decides the terms of the auction, and this info needs to be written down in the description. Some info is mandatory, some isn't.

Mandatory:

Currency = It may seem stupid, but it's actually not. Maybe you accept only points, or only cash, or you accept both, but you need to *tell* people. Because there'll always be the intelligent guy who offers you cash when you don't have a paypal, or points when you ask for cash. At least you can tell them 'read the description' instead of 'I'm very sorry, but I accept only this kind of payment'.

Starting Bid = Doesn't matter if it's as low as 1:points:, you need to set a starting bid. Because you can't say 'bid what you want' and when someone offers you 18:points:, you tell them that it's a stinky offer because your pre-set adoptables are worth at least 180:points:.

End Date = Tell your bidders when the auction ends. This tells them if they need to stay attached to the PC to bid or if they can go take a pee-stop and it's also a way to give them the assurance that the bidding is fair for everyone.

Imagine this situation: There's a bid war between two bidders. Bidder A has 500:points: max to give away in the auction but is called away from the PC to have dinner. The Auction Creator sees the last offer from Bidder B at 350:points: and thinks that Bidder A folded, or feels like the auction was long enough to satisfy him and closes the auction.

The Auction Creator might have earned more if he had waited, and Bidder B will be disappointed for having lost the auction and probably will be a little reluctant to bid again with that Auction Creator.

Not Mandatory:

Minimum Raise = You can set this if you are auctioning for high prices and don't want the bid to go up point by point. Many bidders know how annoying that is and limit themselves to numbers ending with a 0 or a 5, but some will use every single number available from 0 to 9 if you let them.

Autobuy/Buyout = You can set this as low or as high as you want, in comparison to the starting bid, depending on what you want to tell your bidders. A low one says 'Come on, it's low enough to autobuy, give me the little extra needed to reach it', a medium one says 'I know it's high but if the auction progresses it won't be that unreasonable, and you could be sure to get it' and a high one says 'you know, just in case'.

Reserve Price = I personally don't like this, because if you have a reserve price, what's stopping you from putting *that* as a starting bid? But if you have a price under which you won't sell, you need to tell your bidders and not sprung it on them after the auction has already started.

Bid Comment = You may want one of these to keep tidy the comment board, but face it, it's not going to happen. Unless you have the 'Oldest Comments First' option checked, your Bid Comment will be pushed under the new comments. People will ignore it anyway and bid where they feel like it. And you'll have to play shepherd because, even if you say 'bids not on the bid comment won't be considered', you'll still go tell people because bids are yummy and you don't want to lose them.

:bulletorange: Auction Time
So you have set all the terms, have posted the Auction and are ready for the bids. I like to keep a 'Highest Bid' line in my auctions, so people can check up there who's leading the auction without browsing all the comments.

Always remember to tell a bidder if they've been outbid, until they tell you that they fold. Remember that people have a life outside the internet (Orly? Yarly!) and just because they don't reply to your oubid comment, it doesn't mean that they won't reply to the second one when they see them.

:bulletorange: Auction End
So the auction is over. Write the winner's name in the Adoptable Description and ask for the payment.

When does an auction end?
Time Ending 1 = The auction ends within [X Hours, decided by the Adoptable Creator] from the first bid
Time Ending 2 = The auction ends within [X Hours, decided by the Adoptable Creator] from the moment the Auction Adoptable has been posted
Bid Ending = The auction ends when the highest bid has remained the same for [X Hours/Days, decided by the Adoptable Creator]
Random Ending = The auction ends when the Adoptable Creator feels like it
Snipeguard = When, in a Time Ending 2 Auction, somebody bids a couple of minutes before the closing time (that's called Sniping), the auction end gets pushed forward a couple of hours.

What if the winner doesn't pay me?
Give them a time limit (one day or two, usually), and after that give the adoptable to the second highest bidder.

No one bid on my auction.
Well, perhaps something went wrong. Try to check these things about your auction:

Exposure
Auctions are harder to sell than normal pre-set adoptables (don't ask me why), so submitting it to 4-5 groups is not going to cut it. Unless you're the Adoptable God, have 1 million pageviews and people scratch at your message board to ask you for adoptables.

Information
Did you write down the Currency, Starting Bid and the End Date? Lack of information is something that discourages people from bidding, because it's up to *you* as seller to organize the auction, not them. And how can the bid correctly when they don't know the rules?

Time Ending 1
Time Ending 1 is a double edged blade. Because when it starts, people bid faster (and higher) to get it within the time limit, but if it doesn't start, you remain with an unsold adoptable. Try Time Ending 2 if you don't have the patience to do the Bid Ending.

Pricing
I've written a Journal about pricing adoptables, but unfortunately Auctions rarely follow the usual pricing rules. They don't have a set price outside the Starting Bid and depend on how much the bidders like the design, so they're exclusively dependent on the design and art quality.

Hear the sound of truth, people can't see behind what's physically in front of them. It doesn't matter that you spent a month on that drawing or that you think that the quality has improved a lot from your gallery level. People don't care about your time, they don't care about your gallery, if they don't think the art is worth it, they won't bid.

You can try doing a NYP Adopt, and see how much people are willing to give you for a design similar to the one you offered for auction. Then, based on how much you earned and how much was bid, you can raise the stakes a little and do another auction, with a similar price range to what you got in the NYP Adopt.



If you have any questions, feel free to leave a comment. =)

Adoptables Journals Series:
Adoptables, Basics for Adopters
Adoptables, Basics for Adoptables Artists
Adoptables Tutorial
Adoptables, Writing an Artist's Description
Adoptables, Customs
Adoptables, Design Tutorial
Adoptables, Buying Adoptables
Adoptables, Pricing
Original Species Tutorial
The Purchase Button and P2U Deviations
Adoptables, Auctions
Adoptables, Original Species Confusion
Adoptables, I sold one, now what?
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CharReed Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
Is it common or advisable to do an eBay listing for bidding, then just link to the auction in the description (probably would want to disable comments too, to avoid cross bidding)? 
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Karijn-s-Basement Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2015
I personally never used eBay other than to buy, so I'm not familiar with the requirements to sell something. I have hears talks about owing a percentage to eBay, or paying eBay a certain fee to set up a selling account and so on. I have seen plushies and sculpture objects on auction on eBay, but that's probably because they're physical objects, and you can mail them. Selling a concept/digital good leaves the possibility of a chargeback that paypal does not protect you from (it happened to witchpaws among others, when a bidder paid for their adoptable but then issued a chargeback, and paypal granted it).

This being said, my ignorance along with my laziness, I personally don't consider eBay to be an alternative to how I do things in my auctions, but I don't want to discourage anyone who has the time and will to read the conditions and organize things to use the method you suggested.
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CharReed Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
Thanks for the input! :)
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MagicMidnightFox Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hi!
You probably already know this, but a good way of showing when the auction will end is by using a countdown site. I personally use itsalmo.st/
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Karijn-s-Basement Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2015
Derp, nope, I didn't know, because I often use the 'highest bid for X days' and I'd have no time to always reset the timer. But for 24H and 48H auctions it's an awesome idea, I'll consider it if I do such auctions in the future. :D
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MagicMidnightFox Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
The one I use is really quick to set up. I thought it was good for people in different time zones. ^-^
Thanks.
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Celi-Adopties Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Help! I have an auction going on right now and it ends in few hours.Only one person bidded and it was only 5 points. Should i really give up something that i really worked hard on for only 5 points?
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Karijn-s-Basement Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2014
While I do support the fact that people should not downprice their art and their work, you're doing an auction where *you* decided the starting price. Auctions can stay without bids or have just the SB and then they're over. not all of them end in AB or a bid war. So if you decided to put five points as your starting bid (no matter why you did it), you made the choice that *that* was the lowest acceptable price you'd want to give up that design. And stopping an auction and refusing a bid because you think it's too low will only lose you credibility.

So I suggest you follow through your auction to its end, so whatever the bid was, if they pay you, the character is theirs and then, next time, think about what happened with that auction and price the next ones accordingly.
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Celi-Adopties Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yeah. I kinda think that i screwed up on that one hehe.
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chris95th Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2014
I see, thanks, that's helpful :).. I want to try making adoptables too but I think Im not cut out for it yet so I better get practicing first, thanks for the answer
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Karijn-s-Basement Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2014
You're welcome and good luck with your adopts. ;)
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Booty-Peach-Adopts Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
somebody immediately AB from one of my adopts, do I still have to wait till the end date or just immediately give it to the winner.
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Karijn-s-Basement Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2014
Autobuy means autobuy, no matter time. ;)

Basically, the auction automatically closes if someone ABs (and pays, of course). If you have multiple adopts on one sheet, the one autobought closes its auction and the others go on like nothing happened. Congrats on the AB, btw.
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chris95th Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2014
Hi, sometimes I feel like some auto buyers are those who just want to ruin your auction, I dont know much about adoptables yet so I want to know if this is a usual event, like for example, "DA member AB at the first sight of your auction" so you have to close it and wait for around 24 hours for the transaction, then it's a fake AB, so that 24 hour period was wasted and you'll have no choice but to just open it again . Is this true? Thanks
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Karijn-s-Basement Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2014
I've had bids retracted, or bidders disappearing, but it never happened to me with an AB. It's something that can happen, sure, but people retract bids and ABs at their own risk, because the community talks about these people and usually bidders on the 'old' auction will be the same as the 'new' one and people talk.

My personal choice is to give everyone a fair chance and if I blacklist them or not depends on how they behave, so if they have made a bid and when they win the auction the answer is something like 'an unexpected bill/tax/rent/car accident came up and I can't pay', then I'm willing to give them a second chance (though they'll still get a yellow flag), if they disappear with no contact even after reading my warning note, then they get blacklisted and won't be able to bid on my auctions ever again.

Not much else you can do about it. ^^;
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Booty-Peach-Adopts Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I see, thank you very much! ^^
this helped very much :D
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FrozenMaple Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2014
There is a NYP auction without an end date, and I'm sorta in a bid war right now, I don't know when it ends and I can't ask the creator because they haven't been online in the past 3 days but they joined this week. I was lucky enough to refresh the page that see someone had outbid my previous offer so I did a higher price than them again. There arent any updates or anything. What do I do?
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Karijn-s-Basement Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2014
Bid wars go ahead until one of the two fighters doesn't bid anymore or the creator stops the bidding (unlikely if the bidding goes on). Look around the artist's journals and gallery to see if there's a mention of a main account, generally an adoptable artist is not just that, they draw something else, so they must submit them somewhere.
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ixMehh Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2014  Student
If someone write SB does that mean they bid what the Adoptable Creator  put in? 
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Karijn-s-Basement Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2014
Yup. =)
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ixMehh Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2014  Student
alright thank you ; v ;
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Skylar-Girl Featured By Owner Aug 3, 2014  Hobbyist
got a little bit confuse with AB 
so if someone AB does that mean that they will get the adopt?
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Karijn-s-Basement Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2014
Yup, AB gets you the adoptable immediately, though it's generally more expensive than just bidding. But if you AB you're sure to get the adopt. :)
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Skylar-Girl Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2014  Hobbyist
thanks!
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pecuIiar Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ah thanks for this ;) Are you aware of what "hb" stands for, though?
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Karijn-s-Basement Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2014
Highest Bid. ;)
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pecuIiar Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Oh, makes sense X'D Thanks very much!
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Laghrian Featured By Owner Jun 29, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
Thanks a lot for it :D
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Karijn-s-Basement Featured By Owner Jun 30, 2014
You're welcome. ;)
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S04tunate Featured By Owner Jun 21, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
Hey there!
Thanks for all the info; I really learned a lot. Cutie Nod 
However, I still have a few questions..
Bullet; Black What is the purpose of putting a "Bid Here" comment in the comment section?
Is this so all the bidders can see the current bid, without me having to update the description all the time?
Bullet; BlackAlso, can others see the replys on that comment? (Do bidders receive messeges for the replys to this message, so they know when they've been outbid? Or... Should I still tell them that they've been outbid?)
Bullet; Black Finally, How do I send the winner the drawing file? (An email? Or is there an easier way?)

Thank you so much for posting this!
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Karijn-s-Basement Featured By Owner Jun 21, 2014
You're welcome, and I'll reply all in one answer, hopefully I'll manage to give you all the info you ask.

What you said is just one of the reasons (and that's because plenty of people make a bid on your comment and then expect *you* to warn them of an outbidding, so it does a good job of being an 'updated' highest bid but it's not 100% effective), the other is to keep things tidy, so that a person that wants to bid has their own section. Can you imagine reading 5 or 6 pages of 'how nice' and 'looks cool' to look for the highest bid? It's hell.

And you can see if a person has outbidded you only if they reply to *your* comment. Example, if two people both bid on your 'bid here' comment, they won't be alerted to each other bids, but if the second person replies to the first bidder, then the first bidder *will* be alerted. But you won't, because the reply was made to someone else's comment. It's what happens when people start a conversation on a deviation of yours, you see the comment counter rising and yet you get no message alerts, that's because they're replying to each other comments and not to yours.

And lastly, it depends on you, but I usually use sta.sh, since it can handle big files and it's private as long as you give the link through notes and not public comments.

I hope to have answered everything, let me know if I didn't. ;)
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S04tunate Featured By Owner Jun 21, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
I see!
Yes, you've answered all my questions. :)
Thank you so much! This clears up everything.

This really makes me confident about making auctions now, assuming that people will actually buy. :'D
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Karijn-s-Basement Featured By Owner Jun 21, 2014
I wish you all the luck. ;)
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FuwaAdopts Featured By Owner May 2, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hi, sorry to bother you, but I'm currently holding an auction right now and I have a few questions. So let's say one of the adopts gets AB'D, even if the auction is not closed, once the buyer sends payment, I still immediately send the unwatermarked version right?
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Karijn-s-Basement Featured By Owner May 2, 2014
AB is the option that automatically closes the auction, so yes, if an adopt is ABed and the buyer sends the money, you give them the unwatermarked version/bonuses/whatever is it that comes with the AB. If you have more than one adopt in the auction sheet, then the other auction goes on as normal until it's ABed as well or the time limit runs out. =)
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FuwaAdopts Featured By Owner May 2, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ohhh okay, thank you! ^-^
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Karijn-s-Basement Featured By Owner May 2, 2014
You're welcome. =)
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FuwaAdopts Featured By Owner May 2, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
^u^
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TrinitySage Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
ahhh, looks like you go over what sniping is in this journal!

Sorry for the trouble!
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Karijn-s-Basement Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2014
Haha, it's ok. ;)
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P1nk-Champagne Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Sorry to ask, i forgotten about this one -.-
can you please give me example of name your price system? 
Thank you
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Karijn-s-Basement Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2014
Err, I don't understand the question, what price system?
Like, points or paypal? It's a choice you make, I usually write it below the Auction title in the description.
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P1nk-Champagne Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Sorry to make it not clear, i just wanted to ask the 'name your price' money system. Like is the general rule for the NYP system and the meaning of price range. I think that's all :)
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Karijn-s-Basement Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2014
NYP (name your price) and OTA (offer to adopt) are basically the same thing, meaning that the buyers 'offer' a payment of some sort, which can be art, points, money, whatever (the artist generally writes in the description what kind of offers he'll take) and then the artist chooses the one he/she prefers.

Some artists give a price range to give the buyers an idea of what price they're looking for. Meaning that they don't want you to go lower than the minimum they gave you, but if you want to give them more than the price range, you'll probably have more chances to get the adopt.
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P1nk-Champagne Featured By Owner Mar 27, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Oh, i get the message, thank you so much for the info :)
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P1nk-Champagne Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Pardon me for asking, but do you actually have to include reference sheet when someone buy your adoptable?
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Karijn-s-Basement Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2014
No, unless you offer it in the options or it's a species which you've prepared a reference sheet for, in which case the reference sheet exists and is available to the character's buyer but it's not really 'theirs'. (Think of it as a Wiki article on cats. The buyer buys the cat but they can show the Wiki article to other people to give them more info about cats in general.)
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P1nk-Champagne Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Oh, ok! Thank you so much :)
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kura-ou Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Um, I apologize for bothering you, but oftentimes, I take at least 10-15+ hours to work on an adoptable but feel that they will never sell at reasonable prices compared to artists who are very popular...? Not only that, I often think that the amount of effort is greatly irrelevant when a bidder can't get their name out because I'm pretty much a stick-in-the-mud artist who isn't noticeable .__. It can be very discouraging and makes it hard to continue designing characters. Is there any hope for artists like me and what tips would you recommend?

I even tried putting a reserve bid in my last auction, but it was either overlooked or largely ignored... I'm very afraid of not being taken seriously as an artist but I definitely do not want to come off as arrogant :(

I also dislike submitting to over 250 groups but only get 1 bid... .___. especially when popular adoptable artists either don't have to submit to any or just a few ;-; My overall effort seems greatly wasted...
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Karijn-s-Basement Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2014
There are not that many artists who are so popular that they manage to sell over a certain amount of money and while I do agree that your art is very worth what you price it for (and yes, maybe the SB is a bit low), the amount they are sold at is roughly in the mean of what higher quality adopts are purchased for.

Three years ago, people would call you crazy if you wanted to sell a character for more then $4-5, because adoptables weren't really popular and people didn't see a point in that. Now, the community has slowly started to accept that to have a better product, you need to spend more but you cannot quantify this 'more'. I am not telling you that in five years all people will be willing to pay $100 for any kind of adopt and you just need to wait, I'm just telling you that, compared to other people, you're not that bad off.

Other than 'keep up and stay strong', I really have no tip for you. Maybe try doing a base and edit that to make some cheaper adopts, if you're hard pressed for money.

I really hope not to sound rude, but I am firm in my opinion on reserve bids. It is useless to make people bid and then tell them that they cannot have the character because they haven't offered enough, just tell them the amount under which you won't sell. What purpose has a starting bid lower than the reserve bid? An high SB auction with no bids and a low SB auction that doesn't meet the reserve bid, both mean no money. But only one of them makes people feel cheated. I understand that you want to get a minimum amount for your work, then why not putting your reserve bid as starting bid? At least you're honest in your expectations.
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