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What is an Adoptable Auction?
An Adoptable Auction it's like a normal auction, with an adoptable on the plate and the highest point/money offer wins. These are not 'first come, first serve' adoptables.

Is it the same thing as a Name-Your-Price Adoptable?
Both can cause a bidding war, but no, they're not the same thing. Auctions are more organized and have more terms to them that the NYP Adopts. NYP Adopts usually have a price range and not a starting bid, they don't have an autobuy, nor a minimum bid raise and end when the Adoptable Creator feels like it.

Terminology
Bid = Money/Point Offer
Starting Bid/Base Bid (SB) = The first and lowest bid you can make for the adoptable (usually decided by the Adoptable Creator)
Minimum Raise = The minimum amount of money/points that you need to add to a previous bid to beat it (usually decided by the Adoptable Creator)
Autobuy/Buyout (AB) = The price that you need to pay to be sure to get the adoptable (usually decided by the Adoptable Creator)
Reserve Price = The price under which the Adoptable Creator won't sell the adoptable despite the start of the auction (higher than the Starting Bid but lower than the Autobuy, it's not very common to find one on dA)
Bid Comment = A comment made by the Adoptables Creator where you reply with your bids

How do I make an auction?

:bulletorange: Create an adoptable
You can't make an auction without having something to sell. Usually Auction Adoptables have a peculiarity that sets them apart from usual pre-sets, be it an extra chibi, or the fact that they're an original species, or a special edit made just for them. (Or you do auctions to get the maximum income possible for every design you make.)

:bulletorange: Decide the outline of the Auction
The Adoptable Creator is the one who decides the terms of the auction, and this info needs to be written down in the description. Some info is mandatory, some isn't.

Mandatory:

Currency = It may seem stupid, but it's actually not. Maybe you accept only points, or only cash, or you accept both, but you need to *tell* people. Because there'll always be the intelligent guy who offers you cash when you don't have a paypal, or points when you ask for cash. At least you can tell them 'read the description' instead of 'I'm very sorry, but I accept only this kind of payment'.

Starting Bid = Doesn't matter if it's as low as 1:points:, you need to set a starting bid. Because you can't say 'bid what you want' and when someone offers you 18:points:, you tell them that it's a stinky offer because your pre-set adoptables are worth at least 180:points:.

End Date = Tell your bidders when the auction ends. This tells them if they need to stay attached to the PC to bid or if they can go take a pee-stop and it's also a way to give them the assurance that the bidding is fair for everyone.

Imagine this situation: There's a bid war between two bidders. Bidder A has 500:points: max to give away in the auction but is called away from the PC to have dinner. The Auction Creator sees the last offer from Bidder B at 350:points: and thinks that Bidder A folded, or feels like the auction was long enough to satisfy him and closes the auction.

The Auction Creator might have earned more if he had waited, and Bidder B will be disappointed for having lost the auction and probably will be a little reluctant to bid again with that Auction Creator.

Not Mandatory:

Minimum Raise = You can set this if you are auctioning for high prices and don't want the bid to go up point by point. Many bidders know how annoying that is and limit themselves to numbers ending with a 0 or a 5, but some will use every single number available from 0 to 9 if you let them.

Autobuy/Buyout = You can set this as low or as high as you want, in comparison to the starting bid, depending on what you want to tell your bidders. A low one says 'Come on, it's low enough to autobuy, give me the little extra needed to reach it', a medium one says 'I know it's high but if the auction progresses it won't be that unreasonable, and you could be sure to get it' and a high one says 'you know, just in case'.

Reserve Price = I personally don't like this, because if you have a reserve price, what's stopping you from putting *that* as a starting bid? But if you have a price under which you won't sell, you need to tell your bidders and not sprung it on them after the auction has already started.

Bid Comment = You may want one of these to keep tidy the comment board, but face it, it's not going to happen. Unless you have the 'Oldest Comments First' option checked, your Bid Comment will be pushed under the new comments. People will ignore it anyway and bid where they feel like it. And you'll have to play shepherd because, even if you say 'bids not on the bid comment won't be considered', you'll still go tell people because bids are yummy and you don't want to lose them.

:bulletorange: Auction Time
So you have set all the terms, have posted the Auction and are ready for the bids. I like to keep a 'Highest Bid' line in my auctions, so people can check up there who's leading the auction without browsing all the comments.

Always remember to tell a bidder if they've been outbid, until they tell you that they fold. Remember that people have a life outside the internet (Orly? Yarly!) and just because they don't reply to your oubid comment, it doesn't mean that they won't reply to the second one when they see them.

:bulletorange: Auction End
So the auction is over. Write the winner's name in the Adoptable Description and ask for the payment.

When does an auction end?
Time Ending 1 = The auction ends within [X Hours, decided by the Adoptable Creator] from the first bid
Time Ending 2 = The auction ends within [X Hours, decided by the Adoptable Creator] from the moment the Auction Adoptable has been posted
Bid Ending = The auction ends when the highest bid has remained the same for [X Hours/Days, decided by the Adoptable Creator]
Random Ending = The auction ends when the Adoptable Creator feels like it
Snipeguard = When, in a Time Ending 2 Auction, somebody bids a couple of minutes before the closing time (that's called Sniping), the auction end gets pushed forward a couple of hours.

What if the winner doesn't pay me?
Give them a time limit (one day or two, usually), and after that give the adoptable to the second highest bidder.

No one bid on my auction.
Well, perhaps something went wrong. Try to check these things about your auction:

Exposure
Auctions are harder to sell than normal pre-set adoptables (don't ask me why), so submitting it to 4-5 groups is not going to cut it. Unless you're the Adoptable God, have 1 million pageviews and people scratch at your message board to ask you for adoptables.

Information
Did you write down the Currency, Starting Bid and the End Date? Lack of information is something that discourages people from bidding, because it's up to *you* as seller to organize the auction, not them. And how can the bid correctly when they don't know the rules?

Time Ending 1
Time Ending 1 is a double edged blade. Because when it starts, people bid faster (and higher) to get it within the time limit, but if it doesn't start, you remain with an unsold adoptable. Try Time Ending 2 if you don't have the patience to do the Bid Ending.

Pricing
I've written a Journal about pricing adoptables, but unfortunately Auctions rarely follow the usual pricing rules. They don't have a set price outside the Starting Bid and depend on how much the bidders like the design, so they're exclusively dependent on the design and art quality.

Hear the sound of truth, people can't see behind what's physically in front of them. It doesn't matter that you spent a month on that drawing or that you think that the quality has improved a lot from your gallery level. People don't care about your time, they don't care about your gallery, if they don't think the art is worth it, they won't bid.

You can try doing a NYP Adopt, and see how much people are willing to give you for a design similar to the one you offered for auction. Then, based on how much you earned and how much was bid, you can raise the stakes a little and do another auction, with a similar price range to what you got in the NYP Adopt.



If you have any questions, feel free to leave a comment. =)

Adoptables Journals Series:
Adoptables, Basics for Adopters
Adoptables, Basics for Adoptables Artists
Adoptables Tutorial
Adoptables, Writing an Artist's Description
Adoptables, Customs
Adoptables, Design Tutorial
Adoptables, Buying Adoptables
Adoptables, Pricing
Original Species Tutorial
The Purchase Button and P2U Deviations
Adoptables, Auctions
Adoptables, Original Species Confusion
Adoptables, I sold one, now what?
Adoptables, Doing It Traditional
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freezingfeathers Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2016
Wow I saw this tutorial (and it's series) and it is great! :love:

Sadly my adoptables ain't selling so far... Already two $18 and one SB$30 characters adopts but ain't selling...
I saw many tutorials and I always believe patient pays off, but lately I saw someone with 70+ adoptables (with good anatomy and fine colouring skills) didn't really sell much... :o ... That person deserves more.

Now I believe something's off... I'm MISSING something... Even with patience it may not pay off... 
Q: Lower your price then?
A: It's like there's no demand on my adopts... Even if it is $1 no one will buy (for now).

Q: You just started your adopt, so they ain't any customers.
A: I did saw some just started off with their #1 adopt being sold, with an average amount of pageviews. And I did saw someone who has 60+ adopts but not selling well...

Q: Submit to more groups
A: It's already 100+ groups... and active ones... ==a, I need to submit to 200+ groups then?

I highly believe if I solved that MISSING mystery I can get 'em selling :love:
It would be great if you could help give me advice and review my adoptables. Thanks!
*1st one is auction**2nd and 3rd set-price*
Auction Adoptable - Pommeling Series #5 [OPEN] by freezingfeathers Punchi - Seirei Series Adoptables #2 [OPEN] by freezingfeathers [OPEN] Adoptable Seirei Series #4 - Kiichi by freezingfeathers
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Karijn-s-Basement Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2016
Unfortunately there is no MISSING mystery to be found. In a community where everyday new artists come in and bring new ideas getting an adopt sold will be harder and harder. I do not agree with your second argument though, 'I did saw some just started off with their #1 adopt being sold, with an average amount of pageviews. And I did saw someone who has 60+ adopts but not selling well...'.

Every situation is different but you are applying to youself someone else's situation. Yes, someone may have more than 70 adopts and not be selling well (How do you calculate that? If I sell 0 out of 70? Or am I doing bad even if I sell 20 out of 70?), but it's not your case. You have posted three adoptables (four if you count the bunnies), two at a set price and an auction where the SB is nearly double of the set price of a similar-styled adoptable. Out of a total of six adoptables (three humans and three bunnies), you've sold one, which is kind of the same ratio that those 20/70 we talked about before. Now, if you made some less elaborate and cheaper designs, you could spend less time on one adopt and be able to make more. Elaborate designs are wonderful things but not everyone can afford them all the time, while the simpler and cheaper designs are sold more often. Doing elaborate designs is fine, but you should make them every once in a while among others, if you objective is to sell a lot. Of course, if you do elaborate because you love it and because you want to practice, be my guest and feel free to go ahead, but let me tell you that three adopts don't make an adoptable account.

Patience is nothing without perseverance, and getting discouraged by someone else's situation is not the way to do things. Do you never cross the road because you once saw someone getting run over?

As a side note, your descriptions are a bit caotic; what is the relationship between Punchi and Seirei series? The information needed is all over the place and the coloured add ons just distract rather than invite, the description of the auction is much better organized and clear and I suggest you review the ones of the pre-sets and edit them a little bit.
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freezingfeathers Featured By Owner Feb 29, 2016
I see. Thanks for taking your time to review. ^^

Yeah maybe the first/second one, the Punchi, with Seirei Series, it was actually meant for my Open Species but I haven't got the idea how to do it. I'll look into that one. For my recent ones, (the auction adopt), I surveyed properly before starting a closed species, that's why it looked more organised than the other. I think I should open a new journal giving a looooooong description to Seirei Series, like my auction one.

From the above discussion, it seems that in the adopt world, speed (and amount) is much more important than quality. Actually I elaborate quality because I love doing so, and if I don't give it all in each art, I'll feel it is meaningless to draw it~ (lol xD ) 
My goal and dream is to train to produce high quality arts within a short amount of time. I'll maintain the quality while increase my drawing speed (so that I can produce more).

Yeah~ I gota chill a lil, seeing the person with 70 adoptables not selling well made me went anxious. xDD And I even compared myself with the person, which is bias as the situation may differ. :D
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Karijn-s-Basement Featured By Owner Feb 29, 2016
No, I'm not saying that speed and amount are more important over quality, I'm saying that having some variety in the design level helps you cater to a wider range of buyers. Also, quality and design are not the same thing; you can have a good quality adopt with a simple design and a very complicated design done in poor quality. Quality simply refers to the art/technique, the design is the idea behind the adoptable, what sets it apart from others.

If you wish to maintain the same level of design detail, I can only commend you for your choice and wish you luck on your endeavor. ;)
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freezingfeathers Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2016
I see, thanks~

I could make adjustment of the wish. I'm kina new to the design technique. I did notice hot selling adopts has very very unique designs, some that other adopts cannot think of. Some with simple yet inspirational design.
I hope one day I can understand whether is it necessary to add that much design detail to it, or maybe adding unique design details. It's trial and error. ^^
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FuwaAdopts Featured By Owner Edited Feb 23, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hello! This is a fantastic tutorial! Just a quick question about my recent auction that I did here: fuwaadopts.deviantart.com/art/…

Only a few bids have been placed, even though I've added this sheet of adopts to over 100 adopt groups. I did make the auction time quite long; until Monday, February 29th. Was this perhaps too long? I take it the shorter the time period, the more likely it is that people will rush to buy something. I feel like the starting bid pricing was alright, but should I have kept it slightly lower? 

And would it be a bad idea to put up another sheet of adoptables while the auction is still going on? Or should I wait until it's finished? Sorry for all of the questions ;-;
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Karijn-s-Basement Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2016
Since it's a set-time auction, I probably would have chosen an earlier date, but that doesn't influence the bids, at least in my opinion. And the SB was not too high, sometimes though it does happen that no bids are made over an auction, but that's not a reason to get worried. Now you have seen what interests people more and can make your next batch accordingly. About the leftover adopt, I generally put them at a set price if a long enough span of time has passed since posting them.
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FuwaAdopts Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ahh, alright! Thank you for the advice! x3 
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Misty-Doodle Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
thx for this! helped out a lot!!
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Karijn-s-Basement Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2016
You're welcome. :)
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Misty-Doodle Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
:D
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jiko-jiko Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2016
Thank you very much for this!
I just dont really know what is Bid, AB, and SB XD
But now i feel much better since i know all of the meanings of those XD
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Karijn-s-Basement Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2016
I'm happy you found them useful. ;)
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Ladytm Featured By Owner Dec 16, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hello! first, Thank you very much for all your journals they are really helpful and I could successfully start an auction! but, I have one question, how do I properly informe one bid that they have been outbid ? I made one 'Bid here' comment and people reply the highest/last bid, so, do I need to inform the other bidder or they will see it ? and if I need to inform, how do I do? reply their comment? go on their page? send a note ? Thanks again for the journals and sorry my horrible english
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Karijn-s-Basement Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2015
Every reply done on another person's comment will appear in the 'messages' section of that person's account. So people who reply with their bid to the highest bidder will automatically notify them of their reply. However, if they reply to YOUR comment, it means that only you will see it, and not the other bidder, unless they go to the bidding thread and see all the comments that were made. In that case, you should either ferry their bid to the other bidder and tell them to reply to the one who outbid them, or write to the highest bidder and tell them to go and repeat their reply to the previous bidder, so a proper bidding line can be made. (Comment replies are fine, no need to send notes.)

People are getting used to these auction adoptables, so you just need to monitor that everything is going in one line and that's the end of it. :)
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Ladytm Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you very much !!! It helped a lot <3
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Karijn-s-Basement Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2015
You're welcome. :)
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NikSaf Featured By Owner Edited Nov 27, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Sorry, that I'm disturbing you, but I have some questions ( ; ^; )
1. By what way do you send the design? (About fashion design, of course :D)
2. How do you contact with man that had won the auction?
3. What do you send? You have the same model for fashion designs, so... What type of file? Do you include the model line? And what format... I want know everything about what you send to buyers XD
Sorry one more time. I'm just learning English, so I can't even write correctly. Live in Ukraine, yessss
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Karijn-s-Basement Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2015
Italian here, so don't worry about it. :P

Ok, first things first, I've written a Journal about what to do when you've sold an adoptable here: Adoptables, I sold one, now what?
It should at least answer the first one and part of the third. As for fashion, the only file I have is the one I post, so the edited mannequin in .jpeg or .png. No, I don't give the working .psd file, unless I've already decided it *before* posting the adoptable and have written so in the description.

As to how to contact people... Well, a reply comment is generally the fastest way. Or you can note them privately through dA's messaging system. :)
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NikSaf Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
thanks! ^^
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luna-the-hedgefox12 Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2015  Student General Artist
thanks for the info :) :D
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Karijn-s-Basement Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2015
You're welcome. :)
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SNlCKERS Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I usually have my auctions set for "48 Hours after last bid". Should I stop if someone autobuys, or should I continue to wait the full 48 hours?
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Karijn-s-Basement Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2015
Autobuy basically means that they want to buy the character at the price that allows them to have it for their own and no one can take it from them. So, since no one can outbid an autobuy (unless you have a rule stating 'AB is $40 but if bidding goes over $30, then AB is no longer valid'), the auction is automatically closed. New owner pays for their bab and you give them their character, noo need to wait anything out. :)
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Kusachii Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2015
Hello! I'm sorry if I possibly have missed this somewhere in one of the journals, but since I am an artist not situated in the US, would it be better to set the currency of the adopts to USD or the currency where I am from (NZD) when selling for cash? I seem to be a little confused on this aspect, as I have not seen or come across many adopts that aren't in USD?

Also, I'd like to thank you for all these journals! They've been such a big help and honestly, I can't thank you and these tips enough <3
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Karijn-s-Basement Featured By Owner Oct 27, 2015
No, you did not miss it, I didn't talk about it, and you're right (I should really add this stuff).

The choice of currency was a market one for me. I live in Europe, so my currency is EUR, but when I started out, the main part of the community worked with USD (not sure if because most of the community was american or because the USD, a bit like English, is the internet money language), so I asked for USD. The thing is, with paypal it doesn't really matter, since you can accept any kind of currency and then convert it to your own. The important part is the conversion, because paypal's conversion rates fluctuate along with the market ones, so you never have a specific rate, but rather a general idea of it, and that's what you need to ask.

Also, there are fees in paypal, so you must take those into account as well. Based on where people live, there's a variation of this percentage, plus a set amount.

Always using me as example, I want to sell an adoptable and I decide that the minimum I want to get is 10€. I know that right now, every $1 I earn is about 0,84€ or so, so to get 10€ I need to ask for $11.90. Plus I need to count in the fees which are higher the more money you're sent. For me, if I ask for a payment of $20 it's around $1.50. So those $11.90 can become $14 and I'm sure I will earn the €10 I wanted in the beginning.

Right now more people are asking for payments in their own currency (EUR, GBP and CAD are the ones I've been seeing going around most), but I always feels like people are more comfortable with USD and are more willing to buy a character if the payment is in USD. Plus you can always offer them the chance to pay in both currencies, USD if they come from abroad, NZD for your fellow citizens. ;)
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Kusachii Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2015
Ah, thank goodness I didn't! I would feel so bad if I did and had to ask you again 8')
Also thank you for the quick reply and thorough explanation! This is really helpful and concise!
Thank you again!
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Karijn-s-Basement Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2015
You're very welcome, good luck with your adopts. :)
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DinahIsrael Featured By Owner Sep 17, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Thank you so much, I've learned a lot.+fav 
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Karijn-s-Basement Featured By Owner Sep 17, 2015
You're very welcome. ;)
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xXMoonKittyXx Featured By Owner Aug 25, 2015  Student General Artist
Um.

Is it bad I have no idea how to sell my adoptable?
It's on paper and an original species of mine and I have no idea how to get points for it
I feel stupid ^_^
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Karijn-s-Basement Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2015
Perhaps you should read the Journals from the beginning and not jump into the middle, that way you get a general idea of what is needed to sell an adopt. :P

(The only difference you have between traditional and digital adopts is that you need to scan the traditional one.)
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TheFreedomWolf Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2015  Student General Artist
What does MI mean if I may ask.
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Karijn-s-Basement Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2015
Minimum increase, the smallest amount allowed when bidding against someone.
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X-Raptorr Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
This was VERY helpful. Even the comment section was helpful, thank you so much! 
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Karijn-s-Basement Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2015
You're very welcome. ;)
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maca-ron Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Unless you're the Adoptable God, have 1 million pageviews and people scratch at your message board to ask you for adoptables.


so it means that the usually, the first adopt not always succeed? ; u ;
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Karijn-s-Basement Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2015
Yep, that's how it is. Of course, if you draw beautiful adopts and sell them for 10 points (or even 1000 but basically at a price that is very low compared to the art and design quality) then you'll be successful right from the start. 
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maca-ron Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
hmmm i think you're right! okay then, i'll edit mine.. <33 thank you so muchhh 
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Karijn-s-Basement Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2015
You're welcome. :)
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pixieMoonTenika Featured By Owner May 25, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
Thanks!
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Karijn-s-Basement Featured By Owner May 25, 2015
You're welcome. ;)
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Kiacii Featured By Owner May 7, 2015
Do the highest bid wins the auction normally if no one's gonna AB? Just wondering. Llama Emoji-09 (Drinking Tea) [V1] 
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Karijn-s-Basement Featured By Owner May 7, 2015
Yup, unless you have a highest bid lower than the reserve price. I have already expressed my opinion on that one on the Journal so I won't be starting a rant. :P
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Kiacii Featured By Owner May 7, 2015
Oh okay thanks Llama Emoji-05 (Flower Sparkles) [V1] 
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CharReed Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
Is it common or advisable to do an eBay listing for bidding, then just link to the auction in the description (probably would want to disable comments too, to avoid cross bidding)? 
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Karijn-s-Basement Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2015
I personally never used eBay other than to buy, so I'm not familiar with the requirements to sell something. I have hears talks about owing a percentage to eBay, or paying eBay a certain fee to set up a selling account and so on. I have seen plushies and sculpture objects on auction on eBay, but that's probably because they're physical objects, and you can mail them. Selling a concept/digital good leaves the possibility of a chargeback that paypal does not protect you from (it happened to witchpaws among others, when a bidder paid for their adoptable but then issued a chargeback, and paypal granted it).

This being said, my ignorance along with my laziness, I personally don't consider eBay to be an alternative to how I do things in my auctions, but I don't want to discourage anyone who has the time and will to read the conditions and organize things to use the method you suggested.
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CharReed Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
Thanks for the input! :)
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