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:bulletgreen::bulletgreen:BUYING AN ADOPTABLE:bulletgreen::bulletgreen:


:bulletred:Have an Adoptable Fund ready
Having some extra cash in your paypal or extra points in your dA helps you a lot in case you wish to purchase a limited hold-time adoptable. To avoid scamming, many adoptables artists ask for payment within a certain time frame (one or two days generally) and having a fund helps you when you see an adoptable you really want. Sometimes artists will let you put an adoptable on hold, but it's still better to ask first if the 'hold' option is available or not before claiming.


:bulletred:Find an Adoptable that you really like
Adoptables often come in sheets or maybe you follow a lot of adoptables artists and no one can deny that there's a lot of choice around dA. Since you finances are not unlimited, you might find yourself in the tight spot of choosing an adoptable over another. The point here is, you need to *choose*. Because asking both and then making one of the two artists wait for payment is not correct and may loose you the chance of adopting that specific character.


:bulletred:Claim SENSIBLY
Claim first, read description later is NOT an acceptable way of doing things. I understand the rush of joy at finding the 'perfect character' for you, but what if it's already closed? What if it's a paypal adoption and you only have 10 points? Take a few seconds to skim the description, at least to check if it's still open and the kind of payment the artist asks. Reading the description is also helpful for the adoptables that have a specific requirement for the claim comment. Some artists, to be sure that you actually read the rules, ask you to add a word or a sentence in your claim comment. If you don't do so, you might loose your chance at adopting the character if someone else's is quicker than you and has already read the description.


:bulletred:Claim SENSIBLY #2
'adjkjkstgnaa 2 so cool wanna' is not the most intelligent way to ask for an adoptable. Because it makes you look like an illiterate troll, makes the artist doubt you and your claim and, what if there are just names and not numbers in the character sheet? So here's a copy/paste Claim request:

(If you don't have the funds)
Hi, I really like [Adoptable X, Name or Number], but I need a bit of time to find the necessary funds. Is it possible to put it on hold until I have the payment ready?

(If you have the funds)
Is [Adoptable X, Name or Number] still open? If so, I'd really like to adopt it.


:bulletred:Wait for the Confirmation reply
Not much to do here... You can follow the 'Protect Yourself' point while you wait. If the adoptable has already been claimed or the artist will not put them on hold for you, go back to the first point and start again.


:bulletred:Protect Yourself
Now that you have a confirmed claim on your adoptable and have it on hold (at least for the twenty minutes you need to do this), let's talk about protection. Because there are a lot of scammers in the adoptables community and you're risking to loose points to a thief for a character that probably has an owner already.

milkadopts has written a wonderful Journal on Adoptable Scams and How to Avoid Them, so you'll simply need to read the Journal and check if the adoptable artist of your claimed adoptable has what is needed to be a scammer. (Loveno's Journal was removed, I'll think about writing something of my own to fill the gap.)


:bulletred:OMG, the Artist is/could be a Scammer
Ok, don't panic. You still have to send them the payment so it's still a salvageable situation. Now you only need to backpedal, SLOWLY. Do not start yelling at them 'u thief', it only creates unnecessary drama. 'nvm' is also a reply I don't really like. Copy/Paste comments in this case can be:

(If you have the original deviation on your hand)
I'm sorry, but these adoptables were made by :dev:, you can see the original deviation here: (add link)
Please take this deviation down.


(If you DON'T have the original deviation on your hand)
I'm so sorry, I just realized that I don't have the points/money to pay you, so I'll have to give up on this adoption. Maybe next time.
or the variation
I'm very sorry, I'm currently finishing to pay for a commission and I realized I have less points/money than I believed. I think I'll have to give up the adoptable, sorry.

(Remember that thieves can be tricky, so don't feel bad if they have succeeded in scamming you. What you can do is try to find the original deviations and report the stolen ones and then contact the HelpDesk about the thief. You can ask them to give back your points, but do not hold your breath while you wait, they're no Robin Hood.)


:bulletred:The Artist is Legitimate
They're legitimate and have told you that you can have the adoptable so you only need to send the payment over and the adoptable is yours. (Now, don't tell me I didn't tell you... But did you check the description for what kind of payment the artist wants? Free, Trade, Points or Cash?)


:bulletred:Check for Easter Eggs
If you didn't read the description accurately, do so. Because some artists will give you unwatermarked, and even high resolution files of your adopted characters. Or an extra chibi pic. But it's up to you to ask them because artists are forgetful and lazy creatures, so you need to poke them and remind them of stuff. Don't be afraid to ask them what they offer, it's only right you get what you paid for.


:bulletred:Protect Yourself #2
Save the adoptable on your PC.
This is very important in case the artist moves accounts, deactivates, or simply puts the deviations in storage. Simply faving them is not enough and you might need a file to mail for references or whatever.

Save a screenshot of the adoptable deviation.
This is more about protecting your character from art thieves. What if the artist leaves dA and deactivates but a thief saved the pic and decided to upload it? If you have a screenshot of the deviation with a date visible (I know that my Windows has it in the bottom right of the screen) you can use it as proof of theft and protect your character.



Adoptables Journals Series
Adoptables, Basics for Adopters
Adoptables, Basics for Adoptables Artists
Adoptables Tutorial
Adoptables, Writing an Artist's Description
Adoptables, Customs
Adoptables, Design Tutorial
Adoptables, Buying Adoptables
Adoptables, Pricing
Original Species Tutorial
Adoptables, Auctions
Adoptables, Original Species Confusion
Adoptables, I sold one, now what?
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YamiAdoptTables Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2013
1. I can't seem to find the journal (Adoptable Scams and How to Avoid Them) you linked, deviantArt says it got deleted :B
2. Actually first I did always sent a higher resolution artwork when someone bought an adoptable, however, since it seems that many are not even interested in this feature I'll leave it to them to ask :p
3. This is great! ^^ (Once I finished reading I think I'll use my new knowledge to create something with information about diving dragons.. more information ^^;)
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Karijn-s-Basement Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2013
1. It seems that Loveno changed her username and deleted the Journal, I'll see what I can do to find a worthy substitute.
2. It depends on the people I guess... More than high resolution, I'm often asked about unwatermarked versions. Which I don't always offer, especially with fixed bases.
3. Thanks, I'm happy you found it useful. ;)
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YamiAdoptTables Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2013
1. Alright, just wanted to let you know ^^
3. You're welcome ^^

(Guess next I'll be making 1 :points: Table AdopTables X3)
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firemoon-niome Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
well this is probably a stupid question but I don't know how to close Adoptables when someone buys it
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Karijn-s-Basement Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2013
You edit the title adding 'CLOSED' to it and add the icon or the name of the buyer in the description. =)

I have a folder for closed adoptables, this way they don't clutter the featured gallery, but it's not a requirement.
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Leichenengel Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I came across this because I was looking for Tutorials on how to deal with Adoptables...unfortunately my question haven't been answered in your Guide (or possibly I've just overseen them) - you might forgive me in case I ask something you have already said somewhere ^^;

I am totally new to Adoptables - I mean I basically know what they are - sort of a digital way to collect something or base your OC on

So I decided to offer some adoptable though I'm a crappy drawer - took me hours to receive the (unshaded and unhighlighted) result I now have and since I suck at shading and highlighting I just decided to offer them like that and lower the price...

The thing is - what exactly do I do if people are interested - I mean - they pay and I put a sold sign on the one sold - but what then? Do I send them the PNG file of the one they bought or the whole PSD with all the layers?

I'm quite lost as I don't really plan to do that stuff regularly I just decided I needed some extra points so I thought adoptables would be the easiest way as they are quite popular.

But I have no idea of all the stuff I should pay attention to (aside from what you wrote in your guide)...

Would you mind to give me some hints?

Thanks in advance :hug:
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Karijn-s-Basement Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2013
I'm asked this a lot, and I should probably write a Journal about it, but I never find the time. ^^;

The nice thing about adoptables is that *you* decide what should be done about the characters' files and, as long as you write it in the description, people can't complain. Or better, they will complain but the adoptables are yours and you set the rules.

I, for example, offer unwatermarked and high resolution .pngs for commissions (and upload them on sta.sh) but not for pre-sets.

So no, you don't need to do anything like giving .psd files or other kind of files, if you don't want to.

Then come the requests. For example, in a sheet of four adoptables, the buyer can ask you about having their character alone... Despite the fact that I'm only just cropping it, I try to give them what they ask, as long as it's something I can do.

I often get asked for unwatermarked pre-set adoptables. The main problem about this is that I re-use the same base, so I keep only the watermarked files. Plus, if I gave unwatermarked versions and then deleted the design, I wouldn't be able to prove that the design was done by me instead of somebody else to whom I sold the base.

So, after long rant, the answer is, you decide what you want to give them. Which can be nothing at all but the file you uploaded on dA. =)

I hope I managed to be of help. ;)
(Ask me again if I wasn't. :P)
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Leichenengel Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
YES this helped me a lot - I basically don't care what they do with the original files as long as they follow the ruls - the original is unwatermarked the set preview is - because of scammers - I have my originals on my stash and will only link them when I received the points.

I made up a rule that the adoptables may NOT be resold - so in case I find one of them on someone else page but on the page of the one who bought it I have the full right to make them delete it (at least I guess so). There will always be art thieves and scammers - another reason why I made the auction "1 per person"

Thank you for your help I will mention you in my description :aww:
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Karijn-s-Basement Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2013
I don't really put the limit of one adopt per person, but I do enforce the 'one day claim' option. Meaning that if I don't get paid in 24 hours, I'm noting the claimer asking them for payment in the next 24 hours or the adopt goes free.

If they don't comment, in 48 hours from their claim the adoptable is ready for another claimer.

(Of course, with my prices it's difficult to have people asking for more than 1 adopt per sheet, but it has happened.)

And thank you, it's very appreciated. ;)
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Leichenengel Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I actually think that 50 points is already too much - I yesterday had someone say that it's pretty cheap to offer 5 recolors of the original in one set - I basicall did it because I'm too crappy in drawing to make 6 different ones and also because offering recolors of the same model seem to be usual when it comes to adoptables :shrug:
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